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Subject: IP: Former spy divulges ECHELON details, from Danish news articles
> >From: Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com> >Subject: FC: Former spy divulges ECHELON details, from Danish news articles > >************* > > >Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 14:36:03 +0100 (CET) > >From: Bo Elkjaer <boo@apollon.datashopper.dk> > >To: cypherpunks@toad.com, jya@jya.com, jya@pipeline.com > > > >Hello > >A couple of months ago I promised that I would have some articles > >translated that I and my colleague Kenan Seeberg has written since june > >about the Echelon network, the UKUSA pact and danish participation herein > >as third party-member of the pact. > >We have written approx. 50 articles (Something like that, anyway), and > >have been very busy, so translation has been moving at a crawl. Anyway, > >things should start to shape up, so the first articles should be online > >within the next few weeks. We plan to put up the whole show on our papers > >website soon. Pictures, interviews, documents etc. Most of it will remain > >in danish though. > > > >Meanwhile, the danish parliament discussed Echelon SIGINT and surveillance > >two weeks ago. They all agreed that danish citizens communications are > >intercepted on a regular basis - but they also agreed that they would > >_not_ start any examinations of the interceptions. For fear of disturbing > >our allies, it seems. > > > >Copies of the debate are available online - in danish - at the parliaments > >own website www.folketinget.dk. I will pick out links and post them later. > > > >On a side note the parliament agreed that strong free crypto is the only > >means of protection against these kinds of interception. There will be a > >hearing in Copenhagen about how strong unregulated encryption should be > >made available to the danish people. > > > >No need to be too optimistic though, as there are opposing trends within > >government on the subject of unreguleated unbreakable encryption. > > > >I will post all translated articles here, as I get them. They will be > >long. Please bear with any inconveniences. > > > >Regards > >Bo Elkjaer, Denmark > > > > > >ECHELON WAS MY BABY > >Ekstra Bladet meets former Echelon spy. In spite of illness and angst, she > >now reveals how illegal political surveillance was carried out. > > > >by Bo Elkjær and Kenan Seeberg. Photos: Martin Lepee > > > >LAS VEGAS (Ekstra Bladet): ?Even though I felt bad about what we were > >doing, I was very pleased with the professional part of my job. I don?t > >mean to brag, but I was very good at what I did, and I actually felt like > >Echelon was my baby.? > > Ekstra Bladet meets Margaret Newsham in her home in a sleepy Las > >Vegas suburb. For obvious reasons we are omitting the name of the town > >where Margaret Newsham is trying to lead a normal life. She has never > >mentioned her past to her neighbors. > > A past in which Margaret Newsham has been in close contact with > >the very core of the most secretive world of all worlds. > > Margaret Newsham helped build the electronic surveillance system > >known as Echelon. > > Today she has broken off connection with the world of espionage > >and lives in constant fear that ?certain elements? in the NSA or CIA will > >try to silence her. As a result, she sleeps with a loaded pistol under her > >mattress, and her best friend is Mr. Gunther - a 120-pound German shepherd > >that was trained to be a guard and attack dog by a good friend in the > >Nevada State Police. > > She sent the dog to a ?babysitter? before we arrived, since ?he > >doesn?t let strangers come in to my house,? she says with a faint smile. > > Only once before has Newsham told anybody about her work as an > >Echelon spy: during closed, top-secret hearings held by the US Congress in > >1988. Today, Margaret breaks eleven years of silence by telling the press > >for the very first time about her work for the most extensive espionage > >network in the world. Margaret Newsham decided to talk with Ekstra Bladet > >even though her doctor advised her not to meet with us. ?Since I have high > >blood pressure, my doctor thinks it?s risky for me to talk with you, but > >it?s a chance I?m willing to take.? > > > >DEATH SENTENCE > > Newsham has gone through hell ever since she was fired from her > >job at Lockheed Martin where she designed programs for Echelon?s global > >surveillance network. When asked to work on a project in 1984, she refused > >because she believed it could harm the US government. > > Shortly after, Echelon?s wirepullers in the National Security > >Agency (NSA) made sure that she was fired by Lockheed Martin. Immediately > >afterward, she sued her former employer for wrongful dismissal and > >contacted the internal security commission, DCAA, which arranged the > >closed hearings. > > ?Ever since, I have felt like I was under so much pressure that it > >has had a fatal influence on my health,? says Margaret Newsham, who up to > >now has survived a seizure which left her totally paralyzed. All she had > >left was her sense of hearing when she was admitted to the hospital. > > ?I could hear the doctor pronouncing my death sentence, while my > >husband and three children stood by my side. The only thing that kept me > >going was the thought that if I died, I would lose my case. That thought > >was what brought me back to life.? > > After regaining her mobility, Newsham suffered a cardiac arrest, > >and two years ago she underwent surgery for a malignant tumor. Today, she > >dryly states that she is living on borrowed time, which perhaps explains > >why she chooses to stand forward at this time. > > > >SPYING ON POLITICIANS > > ?To me, there are only two issues at stake here: right or wrong. > >And the longer I worked on the clandestine surveillance projects, the more > >I could see that they were not only illegal, but also unconstitutional.? > > Margaret Newsham is not pleased with herself for participating in > >spying on ordinary people, politicians, interest groups and private > >companies, which is exactly what she did for 10 years, from 1974 to 1984. > > Both the satellites and the computer programs were developed at > >Lockheed?s headquarters in Sunnyvale California, and in 1977, she was > >stationed at the largest listening post in the world at Menwith Hill, > >England. > > ?On the day at Menwith Hill when I realized in earnest how utterly > >wrong it was, I was sitting with one of the many ?translators?. He was an > >expert in languages like Russian, Chinese and Japanese. Suddenly he asked > >me if I wanted to listen in on a conversation taking place in the US at an > >office in the US Senate Building. Then I clearly heard a southern American > >dialect I thought I had heard before.? > > ?Who is that?? I asked the translator who told me that it was > >Republican senator Strom Thurmond. ?Oh my gosh!? I thought. We?re not only > >spying on other countries, but also on our own citizens. That?s when I > >realized in earnest that what we were doing had nothing to do with > >national security interests of the US.? > > > >KNOWLEDGE IS POWER > >In all its complicated simplicity, the American intelligence agency, NSA, > >together with intelligence agencies in England, Canada, Australia and New > >Zealand, has established a system of satellites and computer systems that > >can monitor by and large all electronic communication in the world: phone > >conversations, e-mails, telexes and telefaxes. A number of other countries > >are affiliated as third or fourth party participants, including Denmark. > > The fundamental concept of the system is to get access to all > >important political movements in hostile and allied countries alike and to > >keep an eye on all important economic movements. Knowledge is power, and > >the NSA knows it. Furthermore, NSA?s spies function as the only primary > >authority to supervise who receives what information and what it is used > >for. > >?Even then, Echelon was very big and sophisticated. As early as 1979 we > >could track a specific person and zoom in on his phone conversation while > >he was communicating. Since our satellites could in 1984 film a postage > >stamp lying on the ground, it is almost impossible to imagine how > >all-encompassing the system must be today.? > > > >ECHELON WAS NSA?S IDEA > > Who came up with the name Echelon? > > ?The NSA. Lockheed Martin?s alphanumeric code was P415. > > What did you actually do? > > ?Unfortunately, I can?t tell you all my duties. I am still bound > >by professional secrecy, and I would hate to go to prison or get involved > >in any trouble, if you know what I mean. In general, I can tell you that I > >was responsible for compiling the various systems and programs, > >configuring the whole thing and making it operational on main frames > >[large computers, ed.].? > > Which part of the system is named Echelon? > > ?The computer network itself. The software programs are known as > >SILKWORTH and SIRE, and one of the most important surveillance satellites > >is named VORTEX. It intercepts things like phone conversations.? > > > >APPROVED BY THE CIA > > You worked as an agent for the NSA, but were employed by a private > >company? > > ?Yes, it is almost impossible to tell the difference between NSA > >agents and civilians employed by Lockheed Martin, Ford and IBM. The > >borderlines are very vague. I had one of the highest security > >classifications which required the approval of the CIA, the NSA, the Navy > >and the Air Force. The approval included both a lie detector test, and an > >expanded personal history test in which my family and acquaintances were > >discretely checked by the security agency.? > > The sky darkens over the cascading neon lights of Las Vegas when > >Margaret Newsham tells of countless infringements of security regulations > >and about her colleague who suffered brain damage when she partipated in > >the development of the Stealth bomber. Though Margaret Newsham is totally > >exhausted, she also seems relieved. > > ?This is the first time I have ever told anyone some of the things > >I told you today. But now I want to get Mr. Gunther soon so I feel safe > >again. She measures her blood pressure and looks very alarmed. > > ?I had better go to the doctor tomorrow morning, so maybe we > >should meet later on in the day.? > > When she returns with Mr. Gunther an hour later, the dog inspects > >every room before Margaret goes in. The last thing she does before falling > >asleep on her king size bed is to check her pistol to make sure it is > >still loaded. > > > > > >Facts: > >Lockheed Martin is the largest supplier of munitions to the US military > >services and to their intelligence agencies, the NSA and the CIA. > > During the eighties, Lockheed Martin took over LORAL Space Systems > >and Ford Aerospace which also deliver monitoring equipment to the > >espionage agencies. Margaret Newsham worked for the NSA through her > >employment at Ford and Lockheed from 1974 to 1984. In 1977 and 1978, > >Newsham was stationed at the largest listening post in the world at > >Menwith Hill, England. She received on-the-job training at NSA > >headquarters at Fort George Meade in Maryland, USA. > > Ekstra Bladet has Margaret Newsham?s stationing orders from the US > >Department of Defense. She possessed the high security classification TOP > >SECRET CRYPTO. > > According to information found by Ekstra Bladet in the Pentagon?s > >databases, the NSA had 38,613 employees in 1995. This figure does not > >include the many employees at private companies who work for the NSA. > > Ekstra Bladet has documented the existence of Echelon in a long > >series of articles over the last months. > > Denmark is affiliated with the Echelon network as a third party, > >and the most important Danish listening post is located at Aflandshage on > >the island of Amager. > > > >Copyright 1999 - Ekstra Bladet - Denmark > > > > > >>>Bevar naturen: Sylt et egern.<< > >>>URL: http://www.datashopper.dk/~boo/index.html<< > >>>PGP-encrypted mail welcomed and preferred.<< > > > >Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 14:39:10 +0100 (CET) > >From: Bo Elkjaer <boo@apollon.datashopper.dk> > >To: cypherpunks@toad.com, jya@jya.com, jya@pipeline.com > >Subject: INTERVIEW Pt. II: I SOLD MY LIFE TO BIG BROTHER - > > >Part II of interview w. Margaret Newsham > > > > > >I SOLD MY LIFE TO BIG BROTHER > >"Denmark's ministers can believe whatever they want to. I know Echelon > >exists, because I helped make the system." For the second day running, > >former Echelon spy Margaret Newsham tells about the 'Black World' of > >espionage - and the fatal consequences it is had on her life. Half of her > >espionage colleagues are dead today. > >"The surveillance was incredibly target-oriented. We were capable of > >singling out an individual or organization and monitoring all electronic > >communication - real time - and all the time. The person was monitored > >without ever having a chance to discover it, and most of the information > >was sent with lightening speed to another station using the enormous > >digital capacity at our command. Everything took place without a search > >warrant." > >Was all the information forwarded to NSA headquarters at Fort George Meade > >in Maryland? > >"Not all of it, but quite a lot." > >Does the system use programs that are capable of virtually scouring the > >airwaves based on certain categories and trigger words? > >"That's one of the ways it functions, yes. It's like an Internet search > >engine. By restricting your search to specific numbers, persons or terms, > >you get results that are all related to whatever you enter. > > > >BREACH OF SECURITY > >Ekstra Bladet meets the former surveillance spy, Margaret Newsham, in her > >home just outside Las Vegas. By talking to Ekstra Bladet, she chooses to > >break her silence and tell us as much as she considers to be reasonably > >safe. Because Newsham is still subject to the omertà of the intelligence > >services. According to this stringent code of silence, she is not allowed > >to reveal anything about her espionage activities for the NSA. > >"But it is hard for me to live with the fact that I sold my life and my > >freedom of speech to the largest intelligence service of the US > >government." On the whole, it is difficult for Margaret Newsham to lead a > >normal life, even though she wants to do that most of all. In 1984, she > >was dismissed by Lockheed Martin, which built espionage equipment for NSA. > >Ultimately, she refused to work on a project which she felt was a security > >risk. She was 'terminated' as they called it - and she sued them for > >wrongful dismissal. > > > >BILLION DOLLAR SWINDLERS > >"I experienced security breaches almost every day both at Lockheed's > >headquarters in Sunnyvale, California and at Menwith Hill, England. > >Sometimes it was utterly absurd. At a barbecue party held by colleagues > >from the department responsible for developing the 'invisible' Stealth > >bomber, the barbecue kettle was made of the same material that made the > >bomber invisible to hostile radar systems. Another time, somebody had > >coffee mugs made and all of them were covered with prints of highly > >classified Echelon stations. But they were also involved in actual > >swindling. Lockheed Martin undercut other companies to get NSA project > >contracts, after which they illegally transferred money and manpower to > >meet the contract. Since they could swindle others for hundreds of > >millions of dollars, they were capable of anything. That made them very > >deceitful, and in my eyes, they jeopardized the security of the United > >States Government." > >Was the US Government informed about the clandestine projects? > >"No. That's why we called them 'Black Programs". The government didn't > >really know what was happening or what the many billions were actually > >being used for. And I felt very loyal both to the government and to the > >American Constitution, which was constantly being infringed. The world of > >espionage was also called 'The Black World' because most of the operations > >were carried out in secrecy, beyond any control." > >Since her dismissal, Margaret Newsham has been under heavy pressure, > >because her case against Lockheed Martin could mean that an open court > >case would shed light on the NSA's 'black projects'. Among other things, > >the case deals with swindling for more than 10 billion DKK (ca. 1.4 > >billion USD), and for the time being, her lawyer has provided her with > >legal assistance that is the equivalent of 140 million DKK (ca. 20 million > >USD). > > > >PREMATURE DEATHS > >The case has had a fatal effect on her health. Since '84 she has had a > >seizure that left her totally paralyzed, survived a cardiac arrest, and on > >top of everything else is suffering from cancer. Today, she lives on > >borrowed time and suffers from high blood pressure. > >"It didn't help any when my husband asked for a divorce after I had > >survived my cardiac arrest. He is chief of security at Lockheed Martin and > >has also been under a lot of pressure. He was grossly harassed because of > >his affiliation with me," Newsham says. > >She lives alone now and has struggled to maintain contact with her three > >children and six grandchildren. Today, she lives in a quiet Las Vegas > >suburb. Not even her neighbors know about her past. > >"NSA's activities have not only affected me, but also my former espionage > >colleagues at Lockheed. Nearly half of the people I worked with on > >clandestine projects are either dead or mortally ill today. For example, > >my former boss on the Echelon project, Robert Looper, died prematurely of > >heart failure, and Kay Nickerson, who worked on developing the Stealth > >bomber, died of brain damage." > >But how could half of your former colleagues die prematurely? > >"I don't know how to explain it, but at one point we discovered that > >Lockheed's headquarters in Sunnyvale are built on top of a highly > >radioactive dumping ground." > >What did they die of? > >"Heart failure, cancer, inexplicable seizures and brain damage. Even I am > >going to die of cancer before my time. But I have my lawyers, my doctor > >and my children and grandchildren to support me. They are the people I am > >fond of." > >What gives you the courage to continue? > >"The fact that the NSA, CIA and NRO (National Reconnaissance Organization) > >are carrying on illegal espionage against the rest of the world. They say > >they are doing it to catch drug criminals, gunrunners and the like. But > >that doesn't give them the right to do what they're doing. They are > >constantly breaking the law." > > > >ECHELON IN DENMARK > >In Denmark, leading politicians and ministers deny any knowledge of > >Echelon beyond what they read in the newspapers. > >"Now they can read about me then. I am living proof of Echelon's > >existence. I configured and ran a lot of Echelon's programs." Margaret > >Newsham shows us the order that stationed her at Menwith Hill, the > >specifications for some Echelon programs and other internal documents. > >We found discarded computer remnants at the Aflandshage Listening Post in > >Denmark designated "VAX RED". Does that mean anything to you? > >"Yes, as a matter of fact it means two things. You see, I worked on VAX > >computers myself, and they were used on the Echelon project. > >"The color RED probably refers to the classification level. Because the > >security system is based on the fact that only very few people have an > >overall picture of everything that goes on. Therefore, some employees have > >red tags, some purple, some blue and so on. That means that they are only > >allowed to work with certain parts of the projects, i.e. the ones that are > >classified under the same color. As a result, very few employees have a > >complete picture of what is really going on. Since my tag had all the > >colors, I had a good overview. I was also the one who made the back-up > >files." > > > >BIG BROTHER CONTROLS US > >Can you understand how some people find it hard to believe that a system > >like this really exists? > >"Yes, but it is real. We are spying on our own citizens and the rest of > >the world - even our European allies. If I say 'Amnesty' or 'Margaret > >Newsham', it is intercepted, analyzed, coordinated, forwarded and > >registered - if it is of interest to the intelligence agencies. I spoke > >with a radiologist recently, who had done exactly the same thing I had, > >only ten years later, in 1991, under 'Operation Desert Storm'. If only I > >could tell you everything, then you would understand that Echelon is so > >big, it's immensity almost defies comprehension." Margaret Newsham does > >not regret that she has been a pariah in the US intelligence community > >since her break with the NSA in 1984. A break that cost her her husband, > >her job and her health. > >Is there anything you would you have done differently? > >"Not for a second. It is important for the truth to come out. I don't > >believe we should put up with being controlled by 'Big Brother' in the > >future. But we put up with it now." > > > >EXTRA FACTS > >For ten years, Newsham worked for the US munitions and computer firms > >Signal Science, Ford Aerospace and Lockheed Martin. > >They had contracts for the development and upgrading of Echelon satellites > >and computers which the companies designed for the intelligence agency > >NSA. > >The NSA cooperates closely with the CIA and NRO (National Reconnaissance > >Organization). > >For two years, Newsham shared the responsibility for the day-to-day > >functioning of Echelon's computer network at Menwith Hill, England. > >In classified documents, which are in the possession of Ekstra Bladet, > >Menwith Hill is referred to as 'the largest station in the service'. > >Denmark participates on a third-party basis in UKUSA, an electronic > >surveillance agreement. > > > >BY BO ELKJÆR AND KENAN SEEBERG > > > >COPYRIGHT 1999: EKSTRA BLADET - COPENHAGEN, DENMARK > > > > > >>>Bevar naturen: Sylt et egern.<< > >>>URL: http://www.datashopper.dk/~boo/index.html<< > >>>PGP-encrypted mail welcomed and preferred.<< > > > > > >Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 14:47:41 +0100 (CET) > >From: Bo Elkjaer <boo@apollon.datashopper.dk> > >To: cypherpunks@toad.com, jya@jya.com, jya@pipeline.com > >Subject: MINISTER ADMITS: Denmark participates in global surveillance - >Sigint/Surveillance/Denmark > > > >Printed sept. 27. 99: > > > >THE MINISTER FOR THE DEFENCE ADMITS. > >"Denmark participates in a global surveillance system," admitted the > >Minister for the Defense Hans Hækkerup under heavy pressure. > >As one of the first governments in the clandestine Western intelligence > >cooperation, Hækkerup acknowledged during a joint council in the Danish > >Parliament's Europe Committee last Friday that the FE (Intelligence Agency > >of the Danish Armed Forces) participates in the interception of electronic > >communication. > >Does this occur in cooperation with the NSA, which manages the so-called > >Echelon? > >"I can't confirm that, but I can tell you that the FE has been > >intercepting signals ever since the Second World War - and we're still > >doing it." > >Can you confirm that this takes place at Aflandshage on the island of > >Amager? > >"Yes, it does, and the facilities out there have been continuously > >expanded over the years. We both collect and process information from > >satellites. " > >Is this cooperation in compliance with the law? > >"Yes, it is." > >The Minister for Defense was summoned to a joint council by parliament > >member Keld Albrechtsen who was quite astonished by the Minister's > >admissions. Up to now, the ministries of Defense, Justice and Research > >have actually denied any knowledge of the controversial global > >surveillance systems. > >The Minister stated that such satellite systems exist and that Denmark is > >included in them, but that this system is not called Echelon. He also > >stated that we have the capacity to collect and exchange information with > >the intelligence agencies of other countries. > >Do you have any guarantee that Danish citizens are not being illegally > >monitored and registered? > >"No, unfortunately." He evaded the question of whether the law is obeyed > >in regards to the cooperation with the secret services of other countries. > >So this system provides no guarantee for the security of life and property > >for the ordinary citizen. He also to refused to go into detail on the > >question of whether the operations occur in cooperation with other > >countries. Another parliament member of the Europe Committee, Knud Erik > >Hansen, asked at the meeting if the facilities also spied on the > >commercial satellites, i.e. the ones that transmit signals like telephone > >conversations. > >He unfortunately evaded that question, too, but now the Minister for > >Justice must be brought to order so he can assure us that both private and > >commercial communication is not being monitored illegally. > >BY BO ELKJÆR AND KENAN SEEBERG > >COPYRIGHT 1999: EKSTRA BLADET - COPENHAGEN, DENMARK > > > > > >>>Bevar naturen: Sylt et egern.<< > >>>URL: http://www.datashopper.dk/~boo/index.html<< > >>>PGP-encrypted mail welcomed and preferred.<< > > > > > >Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 14:42:30 +0100 (CET) > >From: Bo Elkjaer <boo@apollon.datashopper.dk> > >To: cypherpunks@toad.com, jya@jya.com, jya@pipeline.com > >Subject: THEY SPY ON ORDINARY PEOPLE - Sigint/Surveillance/Denmark > > > >Interview w. Duncan Campbell > > > >THEY SPY ON ORDINARY PEOPLE > >"They spy on companies and interest groups," says Duncan Campbell, who has > >looked at the listening post at Aflandshage near Copenhagen in Denmark. > >"The facilities at Aflandshage are hardly distinguishable from the Echelon > >installation in New Zealand." > >Physicist and technology expert Duncan Campbell has no doubt. Denmark is > >involved in illegal surveillance together with the other primary > >participants in the so-called Echelon system, the US, England, Australia, > >Canada, Hong Kong and New Zealand. > >"My best guess is that the facilities at Aflandshage were additionally > >expanded shortly after the end of the Cold War. In 1990 or perhaps a > >little later." > >What does that mean? > >"Well it means that Aflandshage is in any case not part of NATO's defense > >against Russia and the other East Bloc countries like it was before. > >Everything indicates that the large parabolic antennas and accompanying > >buildings are used in the same way as the facilities in the other > >countries: to intercept communication from commercial satellites that > >transmit the phone and fax conversations of ordinary people. And to > >forward the intercepted information." > > > >BREACH OF DEMOCRATIC PRINCIPLES > >In addition to his physics degree, Duncan Campbell is also a journalist > >and has closely cooperated with a group of British women who are > >protesting against the largest listening station in the Echelon system. It > >is located in a beautiful area on Menwith Hill near Birmingham, England. > >With the help of cunning tricks, the women have sneaked into the base more > >than a hundred times and removed thousands of classified documents from > >the secretive base. With the help of these papers, and from information > >from anonymous agents, Campbell has acquired a unique knowledge which last > >year resulted in an extensive report on the global surveillance, ordered > >by the European Parliament. > >"The problem is that most democratic countries have laws that protect the > >sanctity of private life and do not allow the lawful political activities > >of their citizens to be monitored and registered. In order to monitor > >someone, you must have grounds for suspicion and be authorized to do so by > >a judge. Echelon is a total breach of these principles. A great number of > >categories are coded into the system, and under each category there are > >even more code words. Many of the words are used in normal daily > >conversation. Not only the rights of ordinary people are infringed; > >Echelon also monitors interest groups like Amnesty International, > >Greenpeace and private companies. Several examples of industrial espionage > >exist in which the US intelligence service has passed on information to US > >companies that was intercepted from satellites. > > > >BREAKS THE LAW > >How can you be so sure that this is possible? > >I have seen the footage taken inside the systems while they were in > >operation. Both from Menwith Hill, England and Waihopa, New Zealand. > >TV-Free from New Zealand succeeded in filming in the Waihopa base, and the > >operations room was almost completely devoid of staff. The process is > >totally automated and operates at lightening speed. In addition, I also > >made a documentary for which we set up a tiny parabolic antenna beside the > >base on Menwith Hill. The information it intercepted was unbelievable > >after we positioned it to listen in on the same satellite at which the > >large parabolic antennas in the base are aimed." > >Isn't it reasonable that the system has the capability to monitor > >terrorists and the like? > >"Sure it is. But there is all the difference in the world between > >conventional surveillance and monitoring and this system in which the law > >is consistently and constantly being broken by the very people who should > >be making sure that others obey the law. They are purely and simply > >exchanging information which is illegal for the local intelligence > >agencies in the individual countries to collect." > >Is it still called Echelon? > >"The code name Echelon is only part of the entire system, and everything > >seems to indicate that they have switched codes. Last I heard it was > >'Magistrand'." > > > >BY BO ELKJÆR AND KENAN SEEBERG > >COPYRIGHT 1999: EKSTRA BLADET - COPENHAGEN, DENMARK > > > > > >>>Bevar naturen: Sylt et egern.<< > >>>URL: http://www.datashopper.dk/~boo/index.html<< > >>>PGP-encrypted mail welcomed and preferred.<< > > > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >POLITECH -- the moderated mailing list of politics and technology >To subscribe: send a message to majordomo@vorlon.mit.edu with this text: >subscribe politech >More information is at http://www.well.com/~declan/politech/ >--------------------------------------------------------------------------
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