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Subject: IP: more on EARTHLINK SAYS IT WON'T INSTALL DEVICE FOR FBI: Edupage, 14 July 2000



>From: Joe McGuckin <joe@via.net>
>Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 17:26:18 -0700 (PDT)
>To: farber@cis.upenn.edu
>
>This begs the question: How many national ISP's *have* installed
>Carnivore and haven't publically disclosed the fact?
>
>Apparently Earthlink didn't willingly agree to install Carnivore, the
>SF Examiner mentioned that Earthlink lost a federal court case
>and then subsequently tried to install Carnivore.
>
>The SF Examiner mentioned that there was an operating system incompatability
>with the Carnivore software. So now I'm wondering - Is Carnivore a software
>package that get's installed on your mail servers? Or is it a box that
>snoops SNMP traffic when placed on the same subnet as your mail servers ?
>(If so, this would seem to indicate that you can't use ethernet switches to
>connect key ISP infrastructure equipment together, reducing the security
>level and reliability of key services like email and netnews. A large step
>backwards.)
>
>Are ISP's going to be forced to use an OS of the FBI's choosing to facilitate
>the governments surveillance goals? I for one, sincerely hope they do not
>choose NT or Win2K!
>
>Joe
>
>
>
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>
>Joe McGuckin
>
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