IP: RE: Don't Panic! RE: Bells attempt to control the Internet

[David Farber <dave@farber.net>]

>From: "Meeks, Brock (MSNBCi)" <Brock.Meeks@MSNBC.COM>
>To: "'farber@cis.upenn.edu'" <farber@cis.upenn.edu>
>Subject: RE: Don't Panic!  RE: Bells attempt to control the Internet
>Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 21:09:36 -0700
>
>My Ground Zero column of last week addresses the whole issue of this bill,
>of which the thread below is a part.
>
>Here's the URL:  http://www.msnbc.com/news/564512.asp
>
>And the Broadband Played On...
>Bill lets local phone monopoly infect high-speed data market
>
>WASHINGTON, Apr 25th - The Baby Bells have cannibalized their siblings,
>gorging themselves on bull market-fueled mergers and acquisitions faster
>than venture capitalists could write ludicrous checks for ludicrous sums of
>money funding even more ludicrous dot-com business plans. It was all legal;
>all done under the radar, lost in the noise of baby billionaires and
>$3,000-per-head B2B conferences held in Toledo. And it was done in the
>spirit of competition and telecom "reform." And we all got screwed in the
>process.
>
>[snip]
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>From:   David Farber [mailto:dave@farber.net]
>Sent:   Tuesday, May 01, 2001 4:25 PM
>To:     ip-sub-1@majordomo.pobox.com
>Subject:        IP: Don't Panic!  RE: Bells attempt to control the Internet
>
>
> >
> >Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 09:24:28 -0700
> >To: farber@cis.upenn.edu, jeff@pulver.com, gene.gaines@gainesgroup.com
> >From: Bill Stewart <bill.stewart@pobox.com>
> >Subject: Don't Panic!  RE: Bells attempt to control the Internet
> >
> >My reading of the bill is much different from Pulver's.
> >It doesn't prohibit *everybody* from offering Voice over IP services -
> >it prohibits *Bell Operating Companies* who are currently
> >forbidden to offer conventional long-distance voice service
> >from offering internet-based voice on high-speed connections,
> >which would be an easy workaround.
> >
> >The HR1542 may (ok, does) have other problems, but this isn't one of them.
> >It doesn't appear to prohibit them from offering VOIP over
> >lower-speed internet connections, such as IDSL, modems, or 256kbps DSL -
> >it defines high-speed as at least 384kbps in at least one direction,
> >but Congress doesn't typically think of everything....
> >
> >
> >You can look up the bill on http://thomas.loc.gov - search for "hr1542".
> >
> >         (k) PROHIBITION ON MARKETING VOICE TELEPHONE SERVICES-
> >         Until the date on which a Bell operating company is
> >         authorized to offer interLATA services originating in an
> >         in-region State in accordance with the provisions of this section,
> >         such Bell operating company offering any high speed data service
> >         or Internet access service pursuant to the provisions of paragraph
> >         (7) of subsection (g) may not, in such in-region State market,
>bill,
> >         or collect for interLATA voice telecommunications service obtained
> >         by means of the high speed data service or Internet access service
> >         provided by such company.
> >
> >Disclaimers: I'm not a lawyer, though I've played a politician on TV.
> >I've got a variety of other opinions about this and current regulation,
> >which differ significantly from the Bell Companies', AT&T's, Tauzin's,
> >Cato's, Nader's, etc., so I'm sending this from my personal email account,
> >not work.
> >
> >                 Bill Stewart  bill.stewart@pobox.com
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >
> > >Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 05:22:45 -0400
> > >From: Gene Gaines <gene.gaines@gainesgroup.com>
> > >To: farber@cis.upenn.edu
> > >Subject: Bells attempt to control the Internet
> > >
> > >SOS: House Telecom Subcommittee Approves Bill Regulating VoIP
>Applications
> > >
> > >Need your Help to Defeat HR 1542 and Keep Internet Communications
> > >Regulation Free  ( http://pulver.com/hr1542 )
> > >
> > >
> > >Hi There,
> > >
> > >The "Tauzin-Dingell Broadband Bill" incorporates for the first time
> > >Internet applications and broadband in the legacy telecom regulatory
> > >framework. The bill will make it illegal to offer IP based voice services
> > >over the Internet and give the Bells hooks to kill off remaining
>broadband
> > >competitors.
> >
> >....
> >
> > >
> > >[The above from Jeff Pulver <jeff@pulver.com>]
> > >
> > >
> > >Gene Gaines
> > >gene.gaines@gainesgroup.com
> > >Sterling, Virginia
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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