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Subject: IP: Re: Citibank's meaningless privacy notice: [risks] Risks Digest 21.40



>Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 15:46:21 -0400
>From: Zygo Blaxell <zblaxell@genki.hungrycats.org>
>Subject: Re: Citibank's meaningless privacy notice (Prevelakis, RISKS 21.38)
>
>In other words, what you are saying is "information can be shared with group
>A when box B is checked and group C when box B is not checked, therefore
>information can be shared with group A or C regardless of the state of box
>B."  That is true if and only if groups A and C have exactly the same
>membership.
>
>It is easy to get trapped in logical fallacies if one does not include the
>legal context of contractual agreements in the analysis.
>
>In reasonable jurisdictions(*), there are two classes of third parties:
>those that Citibank can unconditionally share information with (e.g., law
>enforcement officials), and those with whom Citibank cannot lawfully share
>information without your permission.  Checking boxes on the appropriate form
>would seem to be a reasonable indication of your desire to grant or deny
>such permission, which would affect the legal status of certain third
>parties.
>
>Indeed, quoted sections of the Citibank agreement would seem to acknowledge
>that this is the case, although other sections of the document would seem to
>contradict this.  The Citibank privacy agreement seems to be written in no
>language I can understand, whether legal, plain, or otherwise...
>
>(*) Of course, I'm not making any assertion about whether Citibank is
>actually located in a reasonable jurisdiction...



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