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Subject: IP: Univ of California officials reply to free speech case post
>Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 13:15:33 -0400 >To: politech@politechbot.com >From: Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com> >Subject: FC: Univ of California officials reply to free speech case post >Cc: li@graddiv.ucsb.edu, christopher.patti@ucop.edu > > >I invited university officials to reply. What they said is below, and I >thank them for taking the time to respond. > >Background on "disacknowledged" case: >http://www.politechbot.com/cgi-bin/politech.cgi?name=disacknowledged >http://www.politechbot.com/p-02046.html > >-Declan > >******** > >Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:42:18 -0700 >To: Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com> >From: Charles Li <li@graddiv.ucsb.edu> >Subject: Re: More on student loses speech case against Univ of > California >In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010518232157.020bca10@mail.well.com> > >The University respects the First Amendment rights of any individual. In >the case of Mr. Christopher Brown, he has the right to say, write and >publish whatever he wishes. > >The faculty of a university also has First Amendment rights, and the >University must respect that also. In this case, the relevant First >Amendment right of the faculty is their freedom to choose to endorse or >not endorse any statements of another individual. In a thesis, the first >page states that the thesis represents the partial fulfillment of the >degree requirements and it is approved by the faculty committee that >supervises the thesis. At the bottom of this first page, each member of >the Thesis Committee signs his/her name. Signing this first page is >tantamount to endorsing or approving the content of the thesis from cover >to cover. Members of the Thesis Committee most exercise their judgement to >decide whether or not they wish to endorse and approve the entire thesis >from cover to cover. > >The University as an institution, just like a publishing company, a >television broadcasting company, has the First Amendment right of >deciding whether or not it wishes to publish the writing of an individual. >Making a thesis available to the public who requests and pays for it is >publishing the thesis. > >I have presented the First Amendment rights of three parties: an >individual, a faculty member serving on a thesis committee, a university. >None of these First Amendment rights can or should override the other. > > > >___________________________________________________ >Charles Li >Professor of Linguistics, Dean of Graduate Division >University of California, Santa Barbara >Santa Barbara, CA 93106 >Tel: 805-893-2013 Fax: 805-893-8259 > >******** > >Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 17:11:49 -0700 >To: Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com> >From: "Christopher M. Patti" <christopher.patti@ucop.edu> >Subject: Christopher Brown v. Charles Li et al. > >Dear Mr. McCullagh: > >I am the attorney representing the defendants in Christopher Brown's >lawsuit. They have passed your email soliciting a response to Mr. Brown's >and Mr. Silverglate's statements about the lawsuit on to me. The >defendants' position is quite comprehensively set out in the various >briefs they filed in court. Please let me know if you would like copies >of any of those court filings. > >Regards, > >Christopher M. Patti >University Counsel >University of California >1111 Franklin Street, 8th Floor >Oakland, CA 94607-5200 >Tel: (510)987-9800 >Fax: (510)987-9757 > >******** > >From: Chris.Brown@peoplelink.com >Received: from noteslax1.peoplelink.com (noteslax1.peoplelink.com >[216.34.204.20]) > by smtp.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP > id UAA14263 for <declan@well.com>; Sat, 19 May 2001 20:16:41 > -0700 (PDT) >To: declan@well.com >Cc: politech@politechbot.com >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Subject: Re: FC: More on student loses speech case against Univ of California >Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 20:18:07 -0700 >Message-ID: <OF138DD0E0.C34427F6-ON88256A52.0012232A@peoplelink.com> > >Declan and politechbot readers, > >Concerning me censored thesis, we filed the notice of appeal to the Ninth >Circut Court of Appeals this past week. In a little more than a year, we >can expect a hearing. Because of ongoing litigation, it is unlikely that >you will get a response from the university, other than from Christopher >Patti in the Office of the UC General Counsel. (FYI, Patti took over this >case from David Birnbaum. I do not have Patti's email address otherwise I >would share it.) > >Until the Court of Appeals has a chance to review the case, politechbot >readers and researchers in my field will not be able to go to UCSB's >Davidson Library to read my federally funded research. This illuminates a >double wrong. Not only has the university denied my academic freedom and >free speech rights, it has also cut-off other students and researchers >from access to ideas and opinions. In these all-to-frequent censorship >cases, the greatest loser is always those who have refused access to >controversial works. In this case, the administration clearly did not >think that its community should be exposed to honest criticism of the >university. One would think that this has to be embarrassingfor the >academic community involved. The usual gauge of a scientific paper is the >caliber of the research and not whether it measues up to the Mennonite >upbringing of one of the faculty. > >Interested parties might be able to get the complete document by making a >public records request to the University of California, Santa Barbara >Pubic Records Office. Call or write: > >Huerta, Raymond > Coordinator, Public Records Information Office 805-893-2089, 805-893-2701 >2121 Cheadle Hall >Santa Barbara, CA 93106 >Fax: 805-893-5482 >E-Mail: Raymond.Huerta@aao.ucsb.edu > >and ask for THE MORPHOLOGY OF CALCIUM CARBONATE, FACTORS AFFECTING CRYSTAL >SHAPE, by Christopher Brown. > >It will be very interesting to see how the university deals with multiple >public requests for a federally funded research that should be otherwise >readily available . They will likely try to 1) deny the existence of the >document, 2) Claim they are not in posession of such a document. (We have >it on good information that it's in the special collections vault of the >Davidson Library). 3) Refuse to relinquish it because it is the subject >of legal proceedings. ( Again this should not stand because the university >itself is not a party to the litigation, it's officers in the individual >capacity are.) > >If one or more of you make a request, I would be interested in hearing how >it turns out. > >Cheers and Free Thinking and Writing to All, > >Christopher Brown > >BS University of California, Berkeley (yes, the home of the Free Speech >Movement) > >MS University of California, Santa Barbara > >******** > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >POLITECH -- Declan McCullagh's politics and technology mailing list >You may redistribute this message freely if it remains intact. >To subscribe, visit http://www.politechbot.com/info/subscribe.html >This message is archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > For archives see: http://www.interesting-people.org/
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