[Date Prev] | [Thread Prev] | [Thread Next] | [Date Next] -- [Date Index] | [Thread Index] | [interesting-people Home]
Subject: IP: Firsthand reports from NYC and Washington DC after attacks
>Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 11:39:12 -0400 >To: politech@politechbot.com >From: Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com> > > > From a friend in NYC: >>I just tired calling you...but i can't get through anywhere- NY, DC- it >>is hard to even find out if my friends and family are ok- they have >>suspended the primary elections, suspended the trains and buses, closed >>all bridges and tunnels- we are being told to evacuate the city but no >>one even knows where to go- i can see smoke from my building and I live >>all the way on 110th street- > >NSA and CIA -- their complexes are miles outside of Washington DC proper >-- have been evacuated. From an NSAer: "I want to know as a member of the >intelligence community how the fuck we didn't see this happening." > >-Declan > >********** > >From: John Young <jya@PIPELINE.COM> >Subject: New York Report >Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 11:14:39 -0700 > >E-mail in Upper West Side of Manhattan is okay, local and national >TV too. Radio is out due to loss of transmitters on the collapsed WTC >towers. Our wire and wireless phones are on and off. Subways are >partly out. We cannot see the WTC area from the roof of our building, >so TV and Internet are all we got. I was about to leave for a meeting >in the WTC area when the news broke. > >Trying to locate a daughter who has a dot.com job near the WTC. >Many friends nearby too. > >A word on the structure of the WTC towers: > >The WTC towers had a distinctive structural system which utilized >the exterior wall framing for lateral bracing -- a so-called lattice >framework. This allowed minimization of internal lateral bracing >and opened up the floor plans. You can see the effect of that when >the buildings collapsed, with the lattice framework crumbling and >the interior imploding. The lattice works so long as it remains >intact as a system: if a part of it goes, then the whole system >goes. > >The planes punched holes in the lattice, one tower punched >on two sides, maybe the other too. Portions of the lattice of >the second tower briefly remained standing after the collapse, >then fell. > >The system was considered daring at the time of construction, for >it distributed loads more efficiently than legacy column-and-beam- >supported systems. Probably the legacy systems would not have >totally collapsed due to damage at upper floors, although floors >above the damage would have come down if columns were >weakened. > >********** > >From: Rembert Oldenboom <rembert@euronet.nl> >Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:57:51 GMT >Subject: Re: FC: Terrorists attack World Trade Center and Pentagon >To: declan@well.com > >Hi Declan, > >I'm in Europe and it's almost impossible to reach any news site on the >internet. The Washington Post site was the only one well reachable. Even >local sites are unreachable now. > >Guess this is something you won't hear in the US: > >From the Dutch television I understood the Dutch stock market had to be >stopped as stocks were dropping extremely fast. >Currently one Dutch tv channel is dedicated to what's going on in the US. > >I learned from Dutch Teletext some other plane has crashed in >Pennsylvania. > >What the heck is going on? Dutch television could only describe what's >going on as an act of war. Seeing CNN it's impossible to think otherwise. > >Hmm... maybe interesting, not seen on tv yet: > >http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/world/international-crash-tradecenter-cla >im.html > > Palestinian Group Denies World Trade Center Crash > > By REUTERS > > Filed at 9:58 a.m. ET > > JERUSALEM (Reuters) - A senior official from the radical Democratic >Front for the > Liberation of Palestine denied Tuesday the group had any connection to >a double > plane crash onto New York City's World Trade Center. > > An anonymous caller had told Abu Dhabi television the DFLP was behind >the > crash. > > ``I emphasize that the story released on Abu Dhabi TV by an anonymous >person is > totally incorrect,'' Tayseer Khaled, a senior official from the DFLP >politburo in the > Palestinian territories, told Reuters. > > ``The DFLP is against hijacking planes and against endangering the >lives of > civilians who are not connected with the struggle of this region,'' he >said. > > > >Greetz, > >Rembert Oldenboom >Netherlands. > >********** > >From: "Warren E. Agin" <wea@SWIGGARTAGIN.COM> >Subject: Re: What's going on? World Trade Center, Pentagon, > Old Executive Office Bldg >Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:45:12 -0400 >Organization: Swiggart & Agin, LLC > >My wife called. News is that office towers in Boston are being evacuated and >did I think she should pick up our son from school. > >Wanted me to come home even though my office is on the 4th floor of a six >story building. > >Guess I won't get much work done today. > >Regards, > >- Warren Agin > >********** > >From: Mark Milone <milone@MINDSPRING.COM> >Subject: Re: What's going on? World Trade Center, Pentagon, > Old Executive Office Bldg >Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:11:15 -0400 > >I'm writing from midtown NYC. The South WTC building has collapsed. Phones are >+not working. Buildings are issuing terrorist warnings... > >- Mark > >********** > >From: "Stephen T. Middlebrook" <Stephen.Middlebrook@FMS.TREAS.GOV> >Subject: Re: What's going on? World Trade Center, Pentagon, > Old Executive Office Bldg >Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:13:17 -0400 > >I'm not in the Main Treasury building. We have our overlooking the Tidal >Basin. >I can see the pentagon smoke out my office window. > >There was just a huge explosion someplace -- we heard it and felt it, but we >can't figure out where it was. > >********** > >From: "Stephen T. Middlebrook" <Stephen.Middlebrook@FMS.TREAS.GOV> >Subject: Re: What's going on? World Trade Center, Pentagon, > Old Executive Office Bldg >Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:17:23 -0400 > >We're being evacuated now. > >wish me luck > >stm > >********** > >From: John Noble <jnoble@DGSYS.COM> >Subject: Re: What's going on? World Trade Center, Pentagon, > Old Executive Office Bldg >Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 11:10:13 -0400 > >At 10:13 AM -0400 9/11/01, Stephen T. Middlebrook wrote: > >I'm not in the Main Treasury building. We have our overlooking the Tidal > >Basin. > >I can see the pentagon smoke out my office window. > > > >There was just a huge explosion someplace -- we heard it and felt it, but we > >can't figure out where it was. > > > >I have a view from the top floor of my building, at the highest elevation >in Washington, looking down at the city from the northwest. The Secret >Service has someone on the roof. You can see a lot of smoke at the >Pentagon, but not even a plume of smoke from the area of the State Dept. or >the Supreme Court, or anywhere else. The traffic below, on Wisconsin >Avenue, is in evening rush hour mode. > >John Noble > >********** > >From: Mark Milone <milone@MINDSPRING.COM> >Subject: Re: What's going on? World Trade Center, Pentagon, > Old Executive Office Bldg >Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 11:00:07 -0400 > >Try NYC traffic cams: > >http://nyctmc.org/xbrooklyn.asp > >- Mark > >********** > >From: Jonathan Wallace <jw@BWAY.NET> >Subject: World Trade Center >Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:14:55 -0400 > >I was exiting the subway under the building when the first impact >happened....I >+went upstairs, saw the two WTC buildings burning. There was a secondary >+explosion, holes in buildings blocks away from the WTC, glass raining down. >+People running and crying everywhere. I ran for the Brooklyn Bridge and got >+home to Brooklyn on foot in time to see the building collapse on CNN. > >********** > >Subject: RE: Terrorists attack World Trade Center and Pentagon >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4417.0 >Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:36:39 -0700 >Message-ID: <0DB13B7B9CF04B43B3BB03AED2D93C07455900@mailbox.sfbg.com> >From: "Nessie" <nessie@sfbg.com> >To: <declan@well.com> >X-UIDL: d766cb798571ac082918db2e61fc6532 > > > what kind of legislation we're likely to see in response > > >Two words: Reichstag Fire > >********** > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >POLITECH -- Declan McCullagh's politics and technology mailing list >You may redistribute this message freely if you include this notice. >Declan McCullagh's photographs are at http://www.mccullagh.org/ >To subscribe to Politech: http://www.politechbot.com/info/subscribe.html >This message is archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > For archives see: http://www.interesting-people.org/
[Date Prev] | [Thread Prev] | [Thread Next] | [Date Next] -- [Date Index] | [Thread Index] | [interesting-people Home]
Powered by eList eXpress LLC