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Subject: [IP] more on p An "interesting" view of ICANN obligations Replies are welcome
------ Forwarded Message From: James Grimmelmann <jamesg@eff.org> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 16:27:50 -0700 To: dave@farber.net Subject: Re: [IP] p An "interesting" view of ICANN obligations Replies are welcome At 03:00 PM 6/25/2003, Dave Farber wrote: >------ Forwarded Message >From: Dan Hunter <hunterd@wharton.upenn.edu> >Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 23:09:50 -0400 >To: dave@farber.net >Subject: [IP] ICANN - And here's who will be running the Internet for the >next 3 years > >At the risk of trolling for flames, can I ask why it is that you (Dave) and >Michael F. assume is that ICANN has democratic obligations of transparency, >accountability and the like? We don't ask this of organisations with real >power (Shell, IBM, Harvard, etc) so why does a small, irrelevant >organization with an extraordinarily-limited purview merit the kind of >opprobrium that ICANN attracts? I recently wrote on the idea of >"democratic deficit" in ICANN >(http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=400000) arguing that >ICANN's problems with its democratic deficit demonstrates that democracy is >in fact anything but a coherent general theory of political action, >especially in the online space, and asked whether we should continue to >berate ICANN for its "undemocratic" actions. Shell and IBM are publicly-traded corporations. They have strong obligations of transparency and accountability to their shareholders. The last I checked, they were legally required to have democratic mechanisms in place for ensuring that accountability. There's also not much question that they have some accountability obligations to their employees; labor law imposes a layer of democracy on that accountability. Obligation to consumers and other outside groups is more debated, but I think we've been seeing a real push lately to increase corporate transparency, especially to the public at large. Much of the rhetoric of anti-corporatism is driven precisely by the belief that these institutions should be more democratic. Harvard, on the other hand, is a non-profit organization run by a self-perpetuating Corporation whose records are sealed for 50 years. It has certain legal obligations, true, but the main thing keeping it (relatively) open and accountable is public relations. Its mission is so intertwined with academic values that deviations from openness can be highly embarrassing. Some of these deviations it can defend on the grounds of guaranteeing its independence--life tenure for judges comes to mind--others become focal points for criticism. Last I checked, Harvard has gotten some nice lambastings in the last few years over instances in which it operated too much in the shadow: land purchases on the sly, secretive tenure processes, and some telling accusations of censorship. Again, the point should be clear: many people have strong _expectations_ that Harvard ought to be transparent, accountable, and somewhat democratic. They can't always make it, but they do try. As for ICANN, its coordination mission for the Internet makes it inextricably bound up with the exchange of ideas and the formation of community around the world. It's appropriate to demand democratic values from it because so much of its work touches on issues of concern to people as citizens. ICANN needs to be accountable because ICANN _matters_. (Of course, you could say, as I read Dan to, that ICANN should get a pass because of its "extraordinarily-limited purview.' That is, ICANN can be arbitrary and secretive because it doesn't ultimately matter much. I happen to disagree with the antecedent: I look at things like the whois contract policy, the UDRP, and registrar accreditation, and I see important decisions that affect people. I don't think it's too much to ask that these people have _some_ avenue to make themselves heard. Even when courts close themselves off, they still say "take it up with the legislature." But if ICANN is not to be accountable to end-users, who then is the "legislature?") James ------ End of Forwarded Message ------------------------------------- To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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