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Subject: Re: [IP] Online predictive markets (IEEE Spectrum)


I would like to point out that even well regulated markets have been and will be subject to miss-use.. Read any book on the Drexel/Miliken games of the 80s and you see how markets were 'fixed" and directed. What makes one think that a well funded adversary can not do the same -- especially if they save the manipulation for when it will have the greatest impact.

may be some reading of past misdeeds will help .

Dave

Also with todays long term research being two years, one finds research being "commercialized" before its shortcomings are understood.


Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 08:53:20 -0400
From: Steven Cherry <s.cherry@ieee.org>
Subject: Re: [IP] Online predictive markets (IEEE Spectrum)


At 10:46 PM -0700 8/8/03, Ian Lance Taylor wrote:
As others have pointed out, the PAM presumes that everybody has the
same goals--essentially, to make money.  If something like PAM were
taken seriously by the police, a well funded terrorist group with a
bunch of sympathizers could and would spend money to distort the
market.  It wouldn't work every time, but it could sure work when
there was something big planned.  Of course if you know they are
terrorist sympathizers you discount their contributions--but then
terrorist sympathizers look an awful like the sort of people who might
actually know something and want to make a little cash on the side.

Of course, commercial and gambling markets are subject to similar manipulation.

My understanding is that if a market is set up correctly, it's sometimes (perhaps not always) possible to discern and filter out such manipulation. Once the market was set up, it would be possible to simulate such activity and test that. Let's remember that Darpa is a *research* agency and such experiments are its reason for being.

 Steven

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