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Subject: [IP] Loki¹s Map Leads MPAA on Road to Nowhere
------ Forwarded Message From: Dewayne Hendricks <dewayne@warpspeed.com> Reply-To: <dewayne@warpspeed.com> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:00:14 -0800 To: Dewayne-Net Technology List <dewayne-net@warpspeed.com> Subject: [Dewayne-Net] Loki¹s Map Leads MPAA on Road to Nowhere [Note: This item comes from reader Scott Berry. DLH] > From: Scott Berry <sjb@optonline.net> > Date: February 17, 2005 2:48:46 PM PST > To: 'Dewayne Hendricks' <dewayne@warpspeed.com> > Subject: Re Lokitorrent > > Dewayne, > > Not sure if you saw this, but some of your blog readers might be > interested? > > Scott > > <http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=665> > > > > Loki¹s Map Leads MPAA on Road to Nowhere > February 12, 2005 > Michael Ingram > > ³By Court Order [Edward Webber, former LokiTorrent owner] must > provide the MPAA with access to and copies of all logs and server > data related to his illegal BitTorrent activities, which will provide > a roadmap to others who have used LokiTorrent to engage in illegal > activities.² > The MPAA¹s press release is chilling. Not only has the money donated > to the legal defence fund disappeared into a black hole, but all > former registered users of LokiTorrent are placed at risk of future > lawsuits. > > However, registered users will be relieved to hear that very little, > if any, useful information will end up in the hands of the MPAA. > > ³They don't have anything, they have air,² an ex-torrent site owner > told Slyck. He chose to remain anonymous. For arguments sake, we will > call him Paul. > > Paul also ran a Torrent site based on the same scripts and source used > by LokiTorrent. They conferred regularly. > > Referring to the website logs: > > ³Those access logs have no value it all. They only display whether you > downloaded the .torrent file, not if you actually downloaded the > content using that Torrent,² Paul explained to Slyck. > > The Torrent file is merely a key; the MPAA can not prove that it was > used in any locks. > > Paul went on, ³We both didn't log [seed and leech] information because > first it would allow us to know too much about the people using the > network and what they were sharing. 2nd it would require huge > resources to keep track of all that. That's the tracker's job.² > > At best, the information could be used in conjunction with other > research to target ³serial uploaders². Much like the RIAA target those > who share more than a set number of music tracks, the MPAA can now > target those who have a history of trading Torrent files, although > such a system would rely on static IP addresses. > > But Paul does not believe that there will be enough information even > for this. > > ³Logs files tend to grow at a rate of 1GB per day on this kind of > site. Most site owners ? either disable logging or purge the logs > every few days. So there's little to no information for them,² he > explained. ³Perhaps Loki [Webber¹s alias] even disabled his logging > completely recently because of the large influx of new users.² > > LokiTorrent did kept track of which Torrents each user had uploaded, > but the information was stored in the database by username, rather > than IP address. > > The MPAA will find even less information in the logs for the trackers, > which were also run by LokiTorrent. Unlike the website, the trackers > do know who is uploading and downloading the actual files. > > ³Me and Loki both used XBTT as our tracker software. For a fact, XBTT > is volatile, meaning that if you shut it down the active user list is > immediately purged from memory and is NOT stored on disk,² Paul > explained. > > ³The only thing they do know is who uploaded a torrent, but uploading > and seeding is completely different. Even then, that information is > only available for a few days [at most],² he concluded. > > The MPAA would be able to gather more usage statistics and IP > addresses by monitoring public trackers themselves. The announcement > that they have acquired a roadmap to those behind file sharing appears > to be nothing short of a scare tactic. > > Paul also had a few words in defense of Webber, who has been accused > of selling out those who donated to his legal defense fund, only to > settle out of court. > > ³People should not think he ran with the money because he lost. > Victory is not the only outcome of a costly lawsuit,² he said. ³The > gag order is the weirdest thing, it seems that it's purely there to > prevent him from telling the truth.² Archives at: <http://Wireless.Com/Dewayne-Net> [Note: Requires registration] Weblog at: <http://weblog.warpspeed.com> ------ End of Forwarded Message ------------------------------------- To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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