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------ Forwarded Message From: Mary Shaw <mary.shaw@gmail.com> Reply-To: Mary Shaw <mary.shaw@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 11:42:06 -0500 To: <dave@farber.net> Subject: Re: [IP] Flyer Beware: Heavy Fines Assigned For Carryon Contraband Here's my heartburn: I can't tell in advance whether stuff I carry is prohibited or not. For example, my husband has long carried a small pair of needle-nosed pliers to repair his glasses when they get bent. The TSA permitted items table at http://www.tsa.gov/interweb/assetlibrary/Permitted_Prohibited_8_23_2004.pdf says that "eyeglass repair tools (including screwdrivers)" are permitted in carryon. A couple of weeks ago in Bozeman Montana, a screener pulled him out for carrying these. My husband said "eyeglass repair tool". The screener said "that only allows the little screwdrivers". In this case he was allowed (and had enough time) to retreat from security and mail the pliers home. TSA personnel were entirely polite -- my problem is only with their interpretation, not their other actions. Further, the TSA policy says explicitly "the screener may determine that an item not on the prohibited items chart is prohibited". To the extent that means that if they neglected to list Ninja throwing stars I still should know not to carry them, I'm not distressed. But it also seems to mean that I might someday have to choose between my grandmother's elaborate jeweled brooch and catching my flight. Even worse, someone might decide that my grandmother's elaborate jeweled brooch constitutes "artful concealment" (an "aggravating factor" in determining the seriousness of my violation) of a weapon and seize both the brooch and me. I'm sure you'll be happy to know that "attitude of violator" is another "aggravating factor" in determining sanctions. See http://www.tsa.gov/interweb/assetlibrary/Sanction_Guidance_for_Individuals_7 -15-2004.pdf Mary Shaw On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 08:42:49 -0500, David Farber <dave@farber.net> wrote: > > ------ Forwarded Message > From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> > Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 00:20:13 -0500 > To: <undisclosed-recipient:;> > Subject: Flyer Beware: Heavy Fines Assigned For Carryon Contraband > > Hank Investigates > > Flyer Beware: Heavy Fines Assigned For Carryon Contraband > > Air Date: 03/02/2005 > Reported By: Hank Phillippi Ryan > Producer: Mary Schwager > > Targeting all air travelers: the Feds are cracking down on the > contents of your carry on bags! > > Most passengers don't know it, but If you break the rules, you could > face a hefty fine and have your name entered in a secret database. > > Kirk Roth's business trip out of Manchester airport cost him much > more than his plane fare. > > First TSA Screeners discovered a utility knife like this in his bag. > > "So I was a bit embarrassed that I had overlooked the fact that it > was in the briefcase," Roth said. > > But then the unexpected consequences: he was hit with a hefty fine > and given a record with US homeland security. > > Our investigation found he's one of thousands of travelers now caught > by a little known TSA system to punish passengers who break the > carry-on rules, not only with fines, but also with automatic > placement in a secret government database. > > According to the TSA, regular citizens cannot find out if their name > is on that list. > > ... > > http://www.whdh.com/features/articles/hank/DBM1305/ > > ------ End of Forwarded Message > > ------------------------------------- > You are subscribed as mary.shaw@gmail.com > To manage your subscription, go to > http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip > > Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/ > ------ End of Forwarded Message ------------------------------------- To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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