[IP] more on U.S. shuts down network that leaked 'Star Wars'

[David Farber <dave@farber.net>]

Begin forwarded message:

From: Bob Frankston <Bob2-19-0501@bobf.frankston.com>
Date: May 28, 2005 11:22:08 AM EDT
To: dave@farber.net, 'Ip ip' <ip@v2.listbox.com>
Cc: 'Dewayne Hendricks' <dewayne@dandin.com>
Subject: RE: [IP] more on U.S. shuts down network that leaked 'Star  
Wars'


Rereading this I realize that the headline is wrong -- EliteTorrents  
is not
a network. The site itself didn't leak anything. All it did was  
advertise
the availability.

This plays into basic misunderstandings of what the Internet is --  
it's a
misunderstanding encouraged by those who do want to see the Internet  
as just
another television channel and who see networks as brands not  
technologies.


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ip@v2.listbox.com [mailto:owner-ip@v2.listbox.com] On  
Behalf Of
David Farber
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 10:42
To: Ip ip
Subject: [IP] more on U.S. shuts down network that leaked 'Star Wars'



Begin forwarded message:

From: Dewayne Hendricks <dewayne@warpspeed.com>
Date: May 27, 2005 11:20:22 AM EDT
To: David Farber <dave@farber.net>
Cc: carl@media.org
Subject: Fwd: [IP] more on U.S. shuts down network that leaked 'Star
Wars'






> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: Carl Malamud <carl@media.org>
> Date: May 26, 2005 11:00:13 PM EDT
> To: dave@farber.net
> Cc: Ip ip <ip@v2.listbox.com>
> Subject: Re: [IP] U.S. shuts down network that leaked 'Star Wars'
>
>
>
>
>
> > [...go to the former EliteTorrents site, just to see the page that
> > the
> > FBI and Homeland Security has put up in place of the regular
> > EliteTorrents homepage: <http://elitetorrents.org/>.  DLH]
>
> Dave -
>
> I went there and was intrigued.  http://elitetorrents.org/ goes
> to a frameset which includes:
>
> http://192.31.21.68/Shut%20Down%20By%20FBI%20AND%20ICE_files/
>
> That, in turn, yields this traceroute:
>
> 15  unknown.level3.net (64.156.191.10)  62.733 ms  44.501 ms
> 45.521 ms
> 16  inet-sdsc-sdsc2--lax-isp-ge.cenic.net (137.164.24.206)  68.372
> ms  47.105 ms  53.644 ms
> 17  medusa.sdsc.edu (132.249.30.10)  49.865 ms  48.938 ms  48.747 ms
> 18  www.dhs.gov (192.31.21.68)  52.224 ms  49.003 ms  47.183 ms
>
> So, unless dhs is tunelling inside of sdsc, this looks like
> it might be somewhat suspect.  :)
>
> Carl

     I also did what Carl did and it was one of the reasons that I
suggest that folks take a look at the page in my original posting.
Also, I found in a number of other forums that others also noted this
curious fact.  Its hard to hide things from savvy folks on the Net.
I also saw it reported the the  EliteTorrents BT tracker continued to
work after the takedown, which would imply that some of their servers
were continuing to function.  It would appear that all the 'raid' did
was take down the website where folks would go to search for and pick
up torrents.
     I suspect that it will be a time until we all hear the true
story of what took place on this takedown of the EliteTorrents site,
from any of the parties, including the MPAA.

-- Dewayne



-------------------------------------
You are subscribed as BobIP@Bobf.Frankston.com
To manage your subscription, go to
  http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip

Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting- 
people/



-------------------------------------
To manage your subscription, go to
 http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip

Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/