[IP] communication networks for humans

[David Farber <dave@farber.net>]

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From: "Jonathan M. Smith" <jms@central.cis.upenn.edu>
Date: September 11, 2005 7:32:39 AM EDT
To: David Farber <dave@farber.net>
Subject: Re: [IP] communication networks for humans



Dave:
    See http://www.darpa.mil/ipto/solicitations/open/05-37_PIP.htm
                                -JMS


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Jonathan M. Smith
Olga and Alberico Pompa Professor of Engineering and Applied Science
Professor of Computer and Information Science, University of  
Pennsylvania
Levine Hall, 3330 Walnut Street, Philadelphia, PA 19104

On Sat, 10 Sep 2005, David Farber wrote:


> Right on djf
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: Mike O'Dell <mo@ccr.org>
> Date: September 10, 2005 6:06:12 PM EDT
> To: dave@farber.net
> Subject: communication networks for humans
>
>
> i think people are missing a subtle point
>
> it is not sufficient to just have "radios" which
> can talk to each other
>
> the real problem is controlling when they should talk
> to each other, who can make those decisions, and how
> aggregations ("teams") get formed and dissolved.
>
> it would be a serious bug for two fire crews not
> on the same scene to hear the traffic of the other crew.
> that would make things *much* worse instead of better.
>
> however, two fire crews arriving on the same scene
> may need to form one team with one commander.
> who decides that is the easier problem - there are
> protocols in place now for establishing command.
> but how do various radios get informed as to
> which traffic they should copy and which traffic
> they should ignore? and how does that get done
> dynamically, in real time, and securely?
>
> i suggest these are actually hard problems which
> do not have pat answers, certainly not off-the-shelf
> answers at any kind of serious scale. when the
> problem locus expands to include local, metropolitan,
> state, and regional assets, where you need dynamic
> hierarchical team-forming, the problem is quite
> challenging.
>
> there's probably a good PhD thesis in here.
>
>      -mo
>
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