[IP] more on boy, I will avoid those stores djf if you wish company refuses to sell Internet services or other contract-based plans to people over 70 or under 70?

[David Farber <dave@farber.net>]

Begin forwarded message:

From: Bob Frankston <ob2-19-0501@bobf.frankston.com>
Date: September 3, 2006 11:40:17 AM EDT
To: dave@farber.net, ip@v2.listbox.com
Cc: Cory Doctorow <doctorow@craphound.com>
Subject: RE: [IP] boy, I will avoid those stores djf if you wish  
company refuses to sell Internet services or other contract-based  
plans to people over 70 or under 70?

I wonder what the real story is – is this a droid making up  
explanations or an official policy?

Is it that the store owners simply think of the Internet as another  
television channel and can’t understand it themselves?

If it is as presented then I’m curious about the contract. If it’s as  
witless as Verizon’s (which has clauses like forbidding using the  
connection to disparage Verizon) then a willingness to sign it may be  
evidence of a failure to understand the contract – though I think of  
many of this as more like the contract on the back of a parking lot  
voucher – just there to frighten the children but being too absurd to  
be enforceable and you don’t have a real option to bargain.

Why is it so important to “understand” the terms of the contracts.  
Who is being protected and from what? If connectivity is vital then  
is this akin to saying that people under 70 are no longer allowed out  
of their house because they can’t understand the terms of the  
sidewalk provider’s contract. (http://www.frankston.com/? 
name=Sidewalks).



-----Original Message-----
From: David Farber [mailto:dave@farber.net]
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 11:05
To: ip@v2.listbox.com
Subject: [IP] boy, I will avoid those stores djf if you wish company  
refuses to sell Internet services or other contract-based plans to  
people over 70







Begin forwarded message:

From:   Liz Ditz <ponytrax@batnet.com>

Date:    September 3, 2006 10:48:45 AM EDT

To:       David Farber <dave@farber.net>

Subject:            for IP if you wish company refuses to sell  
Internet services

            or other contract-based plans to people over 70



http://www.boingboing.net/2006/09/03/carphone_warehouse_r.html

Cory Doctorow refuses to sell Internet services or other contract- 
based plans to people over 70 unless they are accompanied by a young  
person. They say that septugenarians are too old to understand the  
terms of telecoms contracts.

Mrs. Greening-Jackson, who sits on the board of several charities,  
said: “I was absolutely furious. The young man said, ‘Sorry, you’re  
over 70. It’s company policy. We don’t sign anyone up who is over 70.’

“Later a young lady said company policy is that anyone over 70 might  
not understand the contract. She said, ‘If you would be prepared to  
go to the shop in town and take a younger member of your family we  
might give you a contract.’

“I have just completed a visa form to go to Russia. Last year we did  
one for walking the Wall in China and here is this person saying I  
would not be able to understand a basic form - and it was basic. It  
is pure ageism.

“Somebody has decided when you turn 70 you lose a lot of your mind. I  
find this is ridiculous.”

original article from daily mail

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?

in_article_id@3333&in_page_id70




Liz Ditz

ponytrax@batnet.com



blog: http://lizditz.typepad.com

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