[IP] Re: Nader's at it again

[David Farber <dave@farber.net>]

I agree. djf

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From: "Brock N. Meeks" <bmeeks@cox.net>
Date: February 20, 2007 2:34:07 PM EST
To: dave@farber.net
Subject: Re: [IP] Re: Nader's at it again

Oh man, all this back and forth is making my head hurt.  I'm a  
Democrat to
the core of my being but whining about Nader's candidacy as the  
reason we
now have Bush in office is ludicrous on so many fronts.

Here's the brutal truth:  Gore got beat because he ran a slip-shod  
campaign.
For crying out loud, he didn't even carry his HOME STATE of  
Tennessee.  Had
he done so, the Florida fiasco would have been moot point.

I'm just as ticked off as anyone over the Bush debacle, but to pin  
the loss
on Nader, instead of the incompetent Gore campaign, is folly.



On 2/20/07 2:12 PM, "David Farber" <dave@farber.net> wrote:
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> From: Severo Ornstein <severo@poonhill.com>
> Date: February 20, 2007 2:04:17 PM EST
> To: dave@farber.net
> Subject: Re: [IP] Nader's at it again
>
> Most of those who responded to my message about Nader agreed with my
> assessment, but a few persist in arguing for the rights to a third
> party - pointing out the all too obvious faults with both the major
> parties and their candidates. But people are dying - lots of them
> every day - and a third party (though it would clearly be a good
> thing) is obviously not going to happen right away. So third party
> candidates can only be spoilers and a progressive candidate like
> Nader clearly takes more votes from Democrats than Republicans. One
> can of course argue that no matter what happened, there was going to
> be enough fraud that Bush would have won, and several argue that
> Nader's participation didn't throw the election to Bush. I believe
> that's simply wrong. Of course the real trouble is that nearly half
> the voters DID spring for Bush - even in 2004 when it had become
> crystal clear that his administration was a catastrophe.
>
> I believe an alternative voice such as Nader's is vital - desperately
> needed. But when I saw how close the election was likely to be, even
> though I live in a state (California) that was almost certainly not
> going to go for Bush, I reluctantly decided not to vote for him. That
> Nader himself did not withdraw at the last minute for the same reason
> seems evidence of unforgivable arrogance.



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