[IP] Re: AOL/Microsoft-Hotmail Preventing Delivery of Truthout

[David Farber <dave@farber.net>]

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From: "Victor Marks" <vxm@miglia.com>
Date: September 17, 2007 2:47:04 PM EDT
To: dave@farber.net
Cc: ip@v2.listbox.com
Subject: Re: [IP] Re: AOL/Microsoft-Hotmail Preventing Delivery of  
Truthout

For IP if so desired.

> At 07:05 PM 9/16/2007, Joe Melloy wrote:
>
> > Truthout is a biased ultra-liberal website that does not deserve to
> > be a participant in the IP community.

Agree with the former, disagree with the latter.

Truthout is a biased ultra-liberal website. I doubt they would
disagree with that, except when they wish to position themselves as
appealing to a majority (but then, they feel that the majority should
be as ultra-liberal as they. Such is the nature of political action
groups.)

"does not deserve to be a participant in the IP community" ?

Deserve? I thought Dave decided who deserved and did not deserve to be
a part of his community. It's not a free speech issue, Dave gets to
pick and choose. Not me, not Malloy, or any one else. If Malloy wants
to pick, let him start his own list.

Shoot, Dave decides not only who is in or out of the community, he
also decides who participates by selecting the email he forwards. I
don't have a problem with this, it's Dave's list. He suppresses and
discriminates against speech everytime that he chooses to not publish
an email he receives for the list. There is nothing wrong with this.

As for Truthout, it's entirely possible that they are not filtering
their lists well, or that they are, and that people that once opted in
or otherwise were added to their list have now decided to report the
email as spam.

I've seen people who have become convinced that because unsubscribe
links don't work on real spam that they also do not work on otherwise
legitimate email lists. These people have no problem reporting
something they don't want as spam, whether or not it originated as
solicited.

I don't pretend to know if that is what happened here, but I imagine
that it's not unlikely.

Regards,
Victor Marks


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