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Subject: [IP] The 'other' OLC memo - the 4th Amendment doesn't apply in the US.
________________________________________ From: Gerry Faulhaber [gerry-faulhaber@mchsi.com] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 6:26 PM To: David Farber Subject: Re: [IP] The 'other' OLC memo - the 4th Amendment doesn't apply in the US. For IPers interested in OLC memos on torture, Presidential powers, etc., I strongly suggest "The Terror Presidency" by Jack Goldsmith, who was AAG of OLC for just under a year in the Bush II first term. Goldsmith is rather sympathetic with the aims of the administration but sharply critical of how it was carried out. Great illustration of how lawyers think and a good read. URL: http://www.amazon.com/Terror-Presidency-Judgment-Inside-Administration/dp/0393065502/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1207261338&sr=8-1 ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Farber" <dave@farber.net> To: "ip" <ip@v2.listbox.com> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 5:24 PM Subject: [IP] The 'other' OLC memo - the 4th Amendment doesn't apply in the US. ________________________________________ From: eackerma@gmail.com [eackerma@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Ethan Ackerman [eackerma@u.washington.edu] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 5:06 PM To: David Farber Subject: The 'other' OLC memo - the 4th Amendment doesn't apply in the US. Greetings Dave, There's been a significant bit of press lately around the 'torture' memo authored by the Office of Legal Counsel at the DoJ, but some important FOIA work by Jameel Jaffer and others at the ACLU has identified at least one other equally troubling bit of legal guidance from that office. Apparently, in Oct. 2001, that office drafted an opinion (in effect for at least 16 months) directing that 4th Amendment constraints on searches and seizures did not apply to military actions on US soil. The specifics of the memo are not known, as it is still classified, but it was acknowledged by the White House and was described in other opinions that were released. The White House has stressed that the opinion is no longer in effect. Coverage - http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120719428053885709.html?mod=googlenews_wsj http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hJKgeE0Z-SivATjok-utYBdh9wDwD8VQ1U0G0 ------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------
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