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I hear this a lot and I always wonder: Will they tax 800-number orders
as well? They are the same thing, just two ways to get a company to
mail you a product. The "web" is just a way to remove the human
operator from a mail order service.
The Quill case, which is the 1992 case the article refers to, was aboutpaper mail order catalogs, presumably with telephone ordering, since thecatalogs that Quill sends me have always had a phone number to call.I've never understood why this sales tax question has been framed asan Internet issue, when in fact it applies equally to mail ordercatalog sales, which are still about the same size as online sales. Isuppose online stores are new and sexy while mail order is so 19thcentury. But the tax issues are the same.Incidentally, I've been making the same points this article does formany years. A decade on the board of my village, including threeyears as mayor, let me see up close and personal how unfair it is toboth the local services that are paid for by sales tax (most of ourbudget goes to police, fire, and public works) and to the localmerchants who have collected the taxes all along. If online storescan't exist in 2008 without an artificial 5% or 8% price advantage dueto tax quirks, they're in the wrong business.Regards,John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://www.johnlevine.com, ex-Mayor"More Wiener schnitzel, please", said Tom, revealingly.On May 21, 2008, at 10:11 AM, David Farber wrote:
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From: Robert Atkinson <rca53@columbia.edu>
Date: May 21, 2008 10:07:38 AM EDT
To: David Farber <dave@farber.net>
Subject: For IP: Internet Sales Taxes
Dave,
A call in Wall St. Journal for imposing sales taxes on internet
commerce:
http://online.wsj.com/article/portals.html
Excerpts:
Real World Needs 'Net' Taxes
May 21, 2008; Page B9
Do you think that billionaire Internet moguls should continue to
benefit from a tax loophole that hurts parks and schools, and makes
it harder for your neighborhood bookstore to keep open for business?
I didn't think you did.
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For starters, by giving online businesses a permanent advantage
over their bricks-and-mortar competitors, it helps those who need
it least -- huge, profitable e-commerce companies -- at the expense
of often-struggling local retailers.
In addition, the tax policy is regressive. It disproportionately
benefits the upscale citizens most likely to shop online. Worst of
all, as commerce increasingly moves online, state and local
governments are being deprived of the sales-tax revenues they rely
on to run schools, build roads, pay police and firefighters, and do
all the other things they're supposed to do.
A dozen years ago, one might have been able to make the case that a
holiday on collecting sales tax would help the fledgling Internet
get off the ground. I don't think that was particularly true even
in 1996; it certainly isn't now.
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Opponents of the tax collection are fond of the effective but
dishonest slogan that collecting a sales tax would amount to a new
"tax on the Internet." But making Amazon collect sales tax on books
is no more "taxing the Internet" than requiring stores to collect
taxes on Valentine's Day chocolates amounts to "taxing falling in
love."
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