[IP] Re: Professor Main Target of Assault on Twitter - NYTimes.com

[David Farber <dave@farber.net>]

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From: Tom Gray <tom_gray_grc@yahoo.com>
Date: August 9, 2009 7:54:36 AM EDT
To: dave@farber.net, tom_gray_grc@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [IP] Re:   Professor Main Target of Assault on Twitter -  
NYTimes.com


A major problem with the Internet identified in the IETF VoIP work is  
that the Internet architecture commonly does not associate costs with  
benefits. Some companies have to bear the cost whaler others reap the  
benefits. Google runs a business providing free video service while  
the carries have to bear the cost of increased bandwidth. VoIP would  
work much better if ISP NATS functioned in awareness of the VoIP  
protocols such as SIP. However if the ISP receives no direct nonfat  
from VoIP services then  their is only a slight and indirect incentive  
for it to invest in technology to enable VoIP.

In Canada, there was an historic agreement in the 18th century called  
the Crows Nest Pass agreement. The railroad companies would obtain  
rights of way  if they agreed to carry wheat at a fixed rate. The  
Crow's Nest Pass agreement fixed this at half a cent per ton-mile.  
This became famous and farmers saw it as their right. It was a fair  
rate in the 19th century but in he 20th, it did not cover the costs.  
The railroads would do anything to not carry wheat. They certainly did  
not invest in capacity. The farmers kept complaining to government and  
the government kept ordering the railroads to honor their agreement  
but half a cent per ton-mile guaranteed that there would be no  
capacity to haul wheat. Eventually reality set in and a fair rate was  
set. The farmers whose interest it is to have an ample wheat haulage  
capacity can now be responsible for financing it through fair rates.  
As a result it is there.

Railroad history is often used to illustrate commentary of the  
Interet. The Crow's NEst Pass agreement is anothr apt illustration. If  
users wat service then they have to ensure that they are responsible  
for the cost.  T

--- On Sun, 8/9/09, David Farber <dave@farber.net> wrote:

> From: David Farber <dave@farber.net>
> Subject: [IP] Re:   Professor Main Target of Assault on Twitter -  
> NYTimes.com
> To: "ip" <ip@v2.listbox.com>
> Received: Sunday, August 9, 2009, 5:40 AM
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> Begin forwarded message:
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> From: Dan Lynch <dan@lynch.com>
> Date: August 8, 2009 6:23:56 PM EDT
> To: Dave Farber <dave@farber.net>
> Subject: Re: [IP] Professor Main Target of Assault on
> Twitter - NYTimes.com
>
> This s**t has to be stopped.  It is a deep
> infrastructure problem.  Some class of suppliers must
> be making money off of the weaknesses.  Anybody out
> there have a prescription for the cure?
>
> Dan
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> On 8/8/09 1:48 PM, "Dave Farber" <dave@farber.net>
> wrote:
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> > http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/08/technology/internet/08twitter.html?hp
> <http://www.listbox.com>
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