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A different take (as posted on www.skatingonstilts.com):Al Qaeda Failed. What About Us? Ten Questions.Early reports about the failed Christmas bombing of NW 253 raisequestions that need answers. Because, frankly, if the reports aretrue, al Qaeda never should have gotten this close to a successfulattack.1. According to early reports, the suspect is 23-year-old AbdulFarouk Abdulmutallab, and his name "appears to be included in thegovernment's records of terrorist suspects, according to a preliminaryreview." The first question, then, is how he managed to get a visa tocome to the United States.2. One report suggested that the visa was granted to attend areligious meeting. Is there some political correctness problem thatmakes State reluctant to deny visas for such travel?3. A visa might have been granted for a good reason (a chance tointerrogate or arrest him) but only in circumstances where he waswatched closely. At a minimum, data about him should have gone to DHSand FBI from State. Did it?4. Even if it didn't, TSA and DHS should have identified him as apossible risk from his travel reservations. Did they? If not, whynot?5. If they did, was he screened specially at Schiphol? Did DHS putan air marshal on his flight?6. Sometimes travel reservation data is spotty and badly recorded,but that shouldn't be true for the passenger manifests that NW shouldhave sent to DHS. Those should come straight off the passport. Didit? Should airlines be held liable for deaths caused by bad manifestinformation?7. How good was the air travel screening in Nigeria?8. If it wasn't that good, and I suspect it wasn't, in part becausethe plane was not bound for the US, did Schiphol fall down on the jobby not properly rescreening Abdulmutallab?9. Have we let European objections to US screening standards affectthe security of flights with connecting passengers?10. One passenger is said to have helped thwart the attack byclimbing over several less active passengers to grapple with theterrorist, apparently suffering burns to his hands in the process.How long will it take Secretary Napolitano (at least) or PresidentObama (my preference) to visit this guy in the hospital if these factsturn out to be true? Passengers are the last and most effective lineof defense in cases like this. But the incentives to sit tight arestill great. We need to honor the heroes who react quickly to thwartattacks in the air.Update: Many thanks to Instapundit, BigGovernment, and VolokhConspiracy, among others, for the links. They've spurred someinteresting comments, and one by hiscross about AQQ is importantenough to generate an 11th question.AQQ is a program in which passport downloads collected by the airlineare supposed to be sent to DHS *before* the plane takes off. UnderAQQ, the airline is also supposed to be able to receive a returnmessage from DHS requiring that suspect passengers be removed from theplane.(AQQ is also that most dreaded of government innovations, therecursive acronym, in which one acronym nestles comfortably insideanother. Thus, AQQ stands for APIS Quick Query, which tells younothing unless you know that APIS stands for Advance PassengerInformation System. APIS was the earlier, slower, one-way version ofAQQ.)DHS made the AQQ requirement final more than a year ago, after a longtesting period. But a number of US carriers have been stiffing DHS,refusing to comply with the regulation because, they say, they can'tafford to upgrade their computer systems. They say they're waiting tosee what upgrades they'll have to make for the TSA Secure Flightprogram, but I find it astonishing that a private regulated industrywould simply declare that it won't comply with US law. When you dothat, you have to expect consequences -- or be very lucky. As aresult of airline noncompliance, it is hard for DHS to keep bad guysoff planes, even if the bad guys have been identified from theirpassports. If Delta/NW falls into the carrier-scofflaw category, andthat failure contributed to the incident, they are are, and should be,in trouble. In addition, I'm guessing, DHS will immediately beginfining the other carriers who have been rope-a-doping them.So call it question 11: Was Delta/NW in compliance with US law when itboarded the Amsterdam flight?On 12/26/09, Dave Farber <dave@farber.net> wrote:
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From: Lauren Weinstein <lauren@vortex.com>
Date: December 26, 2009 2:20:44 PM EST
To: Dave Farber <dave@farber.net>
Subject: Re: [IP] re TSA overreaction to Delta incident
Dave,
For what it's worth, I'm often quoted as the original author of the
"chain naked passengers to their seats" line. I see I used it right
here in IP over five years ago during another spasm of TSA security
escalation:
http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/200505/msg00278.html
As for Wendy's seemingly reasonable idea about making more fire
extinguishers available ... well, now, after all, fire extinguishers
can also be used as *weapons* ... right? Can't take that risk, eh?
Rumor is this guy may have been hiding his incendiary in his clothing.
Better pray it wasn't in his underwear, given how TSA reacted to the
"wannabe shoe bomber" case.
Of couse, what TSA really wants to do is eventually force everyone
into full body millimeter or "soft x-ray" scanners. Just a "little"
more radiation. Nothing to worry about.
--Lauren--
Lauren Weinstein
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Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800
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On 12/26 14:01, Dave Farber wrote:
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From: "Wendy M. Grossman" <wendyg@pelicancrossing.net>
Date: December 26, 2009 1:49:46 PM EST
To: dave@farber.net
Subject: Re: [IP] TSA overreaction to Delta incident
(For IP if you like)
Given that the biggest hazard posed by yesterday's attacker seems to
have been the flames, wouldn't the most logical response be to make
fire extinguishers more readily accessible throughout the cabin?
wg
Dave Farber wrote:
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*From:* Kris Gabor <kgabor@aol.com <mailto:kgabor@aol.com>>
*Date:* December 26, 2009 1:21:16 PM EST
*To:* <mailto:dave@farber.net>dave@farber.net
<mailto:dave@farber.net>
*Subject:* *TSA overreaction to Delta incident*
Hi, Dave,
For IP, if you think it's appropriate. If the following is true,
this is another good example of kneejerk overreaction after a
security incident. There used to be a rule that passengers bound
for DCA had to remain seated during the last 30 minutes of flight,
but even that was scrapped after a few years. Good luck telling
passengers they can't use their laptops or read a book for the
last hour of a flight. As someone had suggested in the wake of
9/11, maybe the best thing would be to strip all the passengers
naked and chain them into their seats for the entire flight.
It's interesting how Air Canada has already posted this, but there
is no official announcement of it yet from TSA. I wonder if after
the initial kneejerk, pragmatism may yet win out.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/27/us/27plane.html
"Although transportation officials had not announced new security
measures yet, Air Canada said the Transportation Security Agency
would make significant changes to the way passengers are able to
move about on aircraft. During the final hour of flight, customers
will have to remain seated, will not be allowed access to carry-on
baggage and cannot have personal belongings or other items on
their laps, according to a notice
<http://www.aircanada.com/en/news/trav_adv/091226.html> on Air
Canada’s Web site.
In effect, that means passengers on flights of about 90 minutes or
less will not be able to get out of their seats, since they are
not allowed to move about while an airplane is climbing to its
cruising altitude.
Air Canada also told its United States bound customers that they
would be limited to a single carry-on item and that they would be
subjected to personal and baggage searches at security check
points and in the gate area. It said this would result in
significant delays, canceled flights and missed connections. Air
Canada said it would waive the baggage fee for the first checked
bag as a result of the new policy."
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